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They could make ST 2 awesome by having them go back in time and keeping the last one from being made. It would be a paradox, but it would save the st uni from that piece of crap (& I was expecting so much more from JJ).
I'm sorry but I have to ask, what WERE you expecting?
What were the faults?
How would you have improved JJ's recreation of the Start Trek Universe?
By not making the abomination at all. J.J. might as well walked over to Gene Rodenberry's grave and took a dump on it. Star Trek was always about humanity and exploration, not about action sequences, explosions and lens flares. Now they want to make it dark and gritty like TDK? They should have just retired the franchise and laid it to rest.
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WillyMan... you rock! Grave site defecation!? tasty. Oh, you're completely spot on' by the way.
It's not about the action, explosions and lens flares; it's about the crew being destined to come together despite the differences in the timeline from TOS. Leonard Nimoy has been intensely involved in almost all of the films regarding TOS characters, and if he approved of their vision for ST XI, that's good enough for me. The characters are portrayed by actors who emulate, but do not mock or mimic, the characteristics of the TOS actors - it is a respectful tribute to what was created before. I see where you're coming from, but I don't think you're looking at it without prejudice.
I've seen some fan-fiction movies that better emulate the characters. I love Nimoy, but I am not blind loayist. Lets look at the last 3 SW movies. Done by Lucas himself. They sucked. Just because an original has his hand in it, does not mean its good. I think the characterizations were way off and horrid, the movie was plastic feeling and, even for a ST movie, most of the sci-fi content was dumb (red matter? really?). I was hopeful for this movie, grew up on reruns of the OS & all of the last 3 good series (tried watching enterprise... no). But this... no.
I'm sorry you were disappointed. I suppose you could just as easily have mentioned Indiana Jones. But where you mention the sci-fi content being dumb...when has it ever been really clever? The Gorn? Tribbles? Beings that have advanced beyond the need for a body? Accepting where it falls short along with where it is brilliant is part of being a sci-fi, and especially a Trek, fan. You cling to the good, shrug off the bad, and wait in hopeful anticipation for the next "Mirror, Mirror" or "Wrath of Khan", or whatever you find to have been the finest of Trek. Who knows; this could be their Dark Knight.
But, except for Heath Ledgers performance/plot line, the Dark Night was worse than Begins. I liked it, but thought the recasting of Rachel Dawes (should've just written the character out of the movie), a poor performance by Aaron Eckheart & lot of other little thing make a great movie so so, the only thing that made the movie great was Ledgers Joker. So, I'm not hoping for a 'Dark Knight' sequel. I am hoping for a 'Wrath of Khan' sequel: horrid first offering and an amazing 2nd offering. Though, we are stuck with this cast I guess.
I didn't mean to start a war here, but I do want to add to my comment above. J.J.'s movie in itself is not a bad movie. In fact, I quite enjoyed it. BUT, my opinion is that I think it's a good movie, but not a good Star Trek movie. It had none of the spark that made me fall in love with the Star Trek franchise. I'm not saying all the previous movies or episodes were perfect. Some of them sucked, but the core vision that Gene had was always there, and it seemed to get lost in J.J.'s translation. Anyway, I guess time will tell if they can pull off the next movie.
I think the problem you have is that you are adhering strictly to old trek. I am a fan of all the series. I even say good in Enterprise and Voyager. I was a very big fan of DS9 because of its edginess and darkness. They were still able to explore the characters but at the same time show us the darker side of a galaxy full of alien spices with different agendas. Remember this Trek is a re-boot. it isn't meant to follow the same recipe old trek did. I think it is a healthy reboot for the franchise and I can easily separate the old trek from the new trek and understand there is room for both.
I didn't mean it to be a war - I was very interested in finding out why anyone wouldn't like it, and I have done so. I'm very stubborn, I enjoy a good argument, and I'm not inclined to dislike anyone because they disagree with me on the quality of a film. It happens. It also happens that the reboot film is why I got into TOS in the first place - I simply found it to be a fun and interesting ride, and I'm glad they made it. No one can replace Nimoy or Shatner, or anyone from TOS, but I like what they've done. If your opinion is otherwise, then so be it. (It's very hard to sound unconcerned in writing, but I do hope that is how I come off. My apologies if I don't.)
he always said "Free thinking is some of the most creative trhinking"
Does anyone want to say anything on the abomination that was the last two Terminators films? Or explain to me what happened in with Wolverine or the Last X-Men flim?
I have been a fan of Star Trek since I saw the first episode in 1966. I have been invested in the Star Trek universe for 44 years. But I also know the point is to entertain and the movie should first be concerned with being entertaining, not about the weight of fan expectations. I found the reboot to be entertaining. The problem with universes such as Star Trek is they can be weighted down by the need for fealty to the mythology created. This can actually stifle creativity due to the need to be true to the previously created backstory at is the old episodes or moves. I thought the brillance of the reboot is that it created a way to go in new and exciting directions without being completed tied to the previous mythology. I'm hopeful.
I, too, have been a fan of all the ST series (except for Enterprise... could never get into it for some reason). Anyway, wardhorde has a very valid point and that is why I enjoyed the new reboot. It gave us the ability to enjoy characters that we are familiar with but threw in little twists to make it new and exciting. Remember, they aren't trying to outdo the originals but pay homage to them and give the newer generation an different take of some iconic characters.
My humble advice: don't compare, just enjoy the ride.
Batman finally got it right with the last two movies, by showing who Batman really is. Unike the previous attempts he was protrayed as a true Vigilante. I hope the Avengers stay the same. I understand that making a PG movie is more fiscally intelligent however superhero movies are not that good when you make them too kid friendly. These movies are for adults who watched them as a children. We would now like to see them in adult versions. Oh an someone please start a riot if they decide to make another GI Joe. Pumping $100M into a movie does not guarentee success. Ask Kevin Costner and Water World.
Oh- and as for The HOBBIT- I wish they could all just not be so greedy- no matter how you split a zillion dollars, everyone will be happy!
They can do anything they want with Trek now, just start making Movie-quality episode re-imaginings; fine with me. However, I reeeeeally want Shatner!!!
You mean the priceline negotiator. LOL.
no no no... Denny Crane!
Star Trek is dead.
Odd that they would use Star Trek 2 as a working title since there already was a Star Trek II back in 1982.
lol...can't you see the difference between 2 and II? lol j/k
Yes, they should really call it something like 'The Wrath of Khan'. Since it is going to 'Thematically Resonate' with viewers I will assume a main character will die at the very end.
The Hobbit must be made and I will be crushed like a cockroach if they don't make it!!!!!!!!! F*ck these studios man!
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